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Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Hello all,
I’m toying with the idea of relocating to FMc. I’m currently doing my Masters in HR as well as working towards CHRP designation (both on-line). I have no family. I’m not exactly spring chicken…more of a summer one (46). My questions are:
- How safe is the city? Crime rate etc.
- Multiculturalism (many ethnic groups? I’m hoping to be able to convers in a couple of languages)
- cultural resources?
- Medical Care – very important – how good/experienced is the medical staff? Currently I live in Cariboo, BC,where most of the doctors are like the metro turnstile…here comes one…ohhh, now he’s gone..
- Disposable income in real terms (your own experiences)?
- Staying away from buying real estate (no plans to become an autumn chicken in FMc, as I grew up in a Mediterranean climate). Renting is the way, outside the town. How feasible it is in my case?
Any reply would be of great help. Thank you kindly!
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby nframp » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:01 pm

From my brief impression of the place in 4 months - downtown is heavier on crime than thickwood/timberlea (be careful around the 7/11! haha). I don't think it's really dangerous however, I haven't had any problems.

I've found that there's a decent bit of multiculturalism - most of the big companies have a diversity policy and look to hire diverse backgrounds.

In my experience, medical care is pretty horrendous. No female doctors, most doctors are foreign and have zero bedside manner or much ethics. I saw 2 different GPs and one didn't say anything the entire time, literally, and just left without saying anything, and the other one just asked me what medications I wanted him to give me.

That's all I have much experience with :)
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby Sera » Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:36 am

Thank you kindly for your reply. The medical situation is off putting , to say the least...
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby Tropics » Sun Dec 01, 2013 12:08 pm

Sera wrote:- How safe is the city? Crime rate etc.
- Multiculturalism (many ethnic groups? I’m hoping to be able to convers in a couple of languages)
- cultural resources?
- Medical Care – very important – how good/experienced is the medical staff? Currently I live in Cariboo, BC,where most of the doctors are like the metro turnstile…here comes one…ohhh, now he’s gone..
- Disposable income in real terms (your own experiences)?
- Staying away from buying real estate (no plans to become an autumn chicken in FMc, as I grew up in a Mediterranean climate). Renting is the way, outside the town. How feasible it is in my case?


- It is less safe compared to most cities in Canada. If you go downtown there is a fairly large amount of illegal activity such as drugs and prostitution that are not all that subtle/hidden, although it is not quite as overt as it once was at the "crack 7-11". Robberies are fairly common when you factor in the population, there is a lot of vagrancy and homelessness, places like the parking lot between the casino and NV nightclub are known to be a common place to see a fight on a Friday or Saturday night. We rank fairly high on murder rates. http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/12/15/most ... -murdered/

- Multiculturalism here is crappy. There are a lot of various cultures/ethnic groups who live in Fort McMurray but there is very little "cultural diversity" in the restaurants, shopping, ect... in the city. There is no Vietnamese restaurant in the entire city, the Chinese restaurants are all "western style" (try to find Gai Lan on a menu), there is a huge African population and I can think of no restaurants that would specialize in any cuisine from that continent. Compared to other cities with real ethnic centers such as Chinatowns, little India, Italian stores, ect... we have none of it for the most part. There "are" a couple small strip mall food stores with canned food and minimal fresh stuff that cater to middle eastern and Asian needs but they suck compared to something you would see in Calgary or Edmonton or Vancouver.

- Cultural resources? Not sure what specifically you are asking there.

- Medical care here is fairly terrible. It is understaffed, long delays, takes forever to get a test done. Good doctors are few and far between and those few good ones are booked solid.

- Disposable income? Heaps of it. On this topic I cannot lie, the money up here can be amazing. But I am coming from a position of working on site and putting in an average of 250 hours a month and working with my personal truck getting me added income. I worked 8-5 earlier in my career up here and I was living paycheck to paycheck on a good month and going into debt on the bad ones.

- If you stay away from buying real estate you will be getting fleeced on rent or you will be living communally with other people renting a bedroom and be lucky not to share a bathroom with them, and you will pay ~$1000 for that. On the other hand trying to buy real estate in this city is in its own right a gong show with condos being massively overvalued due to the high rent, those same condos often having serious issues and repairs needed, and houses costing $650,000 for something basic/old and $850,000+ for something new/nice, and $1,000,000+ being the point where actual value in the real estate up here starts to actually be realized (a $350,000 condo up here is ~$250,000 in Calgary, a $650,000 house up here is ~$400,000 in Calgary. A $850,000 house up here is ~$750,000 in Calgary, and a $1,200,000 house up here is fairly comparable to a $1,200,000 house in Calgary).
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby MacDaddy » Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:47 am

If you hold a masters degree I would say apply for a job that will move you here with relocation assistance. As long as the degree isn't from a school where the hardest assignment for your degree is your cheque clearing with the registrar I don't think you would need to show up here and knock on doors.

There are some very good physicians up here but you will need to work at getting in to their practice. Since you already deal with poor medical service in your town you probably won't be too shocked with some of the clowns who practice here.

I agree with the others, renting is bad unless you have no other options. As someone who makes money on from a rented condo I can tell you revenue exceeds expenses every month.

Yes there are crime and drugs issues here. Like most places though you can choose to avoid the problem areas and it never affects you.

Oh, as for renting outside the town I think you will be limited to camping in a tent. Talk to some of the regulars at the downtown bottle depot if you really want to explore this avenue.
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby Sera » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:38 pm

Thank you again for all your replys. I don't have my Masters yet. I'm still a student and will be for some time:) Is there any way to do HR (or any kind of office job...taking into consideration my business background) on-site (camp)?
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby MacDaddy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:26 pm

Find our directly. Apply for some jobs as they are listed. That will answer your question.
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Re: Thinking to move to Fort Mac...But, not sure!

Unread postby Sera » Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:21 pm

Hello again,
Yesterday I landed in Fort Mac. My business partner rented a 1 bed. flat in the Macdonald building (ex-Syncrude ??) without seeing it. Needless to say, we need to move out ASAP. I was wondering if anybody knows of condominiums for rent in northern part of the city. For now, 1 bed will suffice. Any help will be appreciated. Kind regards.
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